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Wo xiang ni

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:20 am


Okay so I live in the UK.
I want to know if I should see a doctor about taking testosterone, however, I really hate doctors and they make me really nervous.
So, is there anyway of getting hold of testosterone (like, online?) without having to see a doctor? though if I really do have to see a doctor, then I will.
Also, can you suggest some ways of taking it? and just recommend something?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:56 pm


I would definitely advise seeing a doctor about it, despite how you feel about seeing one. That way, they can ensure you are taking a safe amount and can help if anything should happen. I'm not sure about the laws in the UK about prescribing T, but I'm guessing that it's going to take some time to get your hands on it.

Go about it the safe way.

As for methods, I believe the most common applications of it are injection, patch, or gel. They all have their advantages and disadvantages. Some people have claimed less dramatic results from the patch while other say it's the best. The general belief though is that the injection method is the most effective, and then you don't have to worry about getting the T in contact with others if you were to use the gel. I would not recommend anything you would take orally, since it has to go through the liver to reach the blood stream, and can result in eventual liver cancer.

Kaori_P


[Envy v.4]

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:07 pm


To quote Kaori, oral pills of T do not even stop the periods, so they are pretty uneffective. And you definitely should see a doctor to get monitored, and get the right doses. Or else it can be dangerous.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:28 am


Okay. But I kind of live in a village in the middle of nowhere, so I don't think one of my local doctors would have the information I need on T.
But I do have other issues the doctor wishes to speak to me about, which if I have to say here for you to know a bit of my background..... then.. I could.
Also another thing is, I don't get my periods anymore anyway.
Can you suggest who I could see about getting T?
I want to start as soon as possible seeing as I'm young, and the effects would be slightly faster than when I start when I'm older.

And yes, I think I might get the injections done.

Wo xiang ni


[Envy v.4]

PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:00 am


Well, there are online support groups specifically for the UK, like this one, where you may ask for information to other FtMs. They might know where to find doctors in your local area. Or you can do a search online for trans specialists in your city, which is what I would have done if a friend didn't refer me to someone.

Wish I could be of more help, but it's all I can think of.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:03 am


Don't worry about it.
I appreciate all the help I get, so thank-you <3
I'll have a look at it in a minute [:
Hopefully I'll be able to get on T as soon as possible.

Wo xiang ni


Darky-Hitori
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:38 am


I can help. *Handraise* This is how to do it via the NHS. (Private = woah expensive)

The first thing you need to do is go to your/a GP.

You explain the situation - that you identify as male, you are Transgendered and that you'd like to medically transition. Feel free to print out information on Transgenderism, because it is not common knowledge for GPs. If the GP outright refuses for no reason, won't do it, is prejudice, etc. - see another GP. Just make another appointment and request a different GP.

Depending on where you live, you'll need to be referred to a Gender Identity Clinic. For example, I live in Essex so I'm being referred to Charing Cross which is in London. Because it's outside the local area, the Primary Care Trust will need to fund the referral.

To be referred and to be passed on to see if your referral will be funded, you need your GP to write to the PCT, and you also need to be referred to a psychiatrist. You should get an appointment at a place that deals with mental health, and you'll probably be assessed, and then have another appointment where you'll be diagnosed.

Then your GP can communicate with the PCT to get you a referral based on their approval and a psychiatrist's approval. It helps if you build a strong case - explain yourself clearly and precisely, how you feel, what you've done to live as male if you've done anything, what you'd like to gain through a Gender Identity Clinic, etc.

Feel free to write all of this down/print it out to give to a GP who doesn't know how they're supposed to deal with it.

It's at a GIC that you can be prescribed T. At Charing Cross, you need a minimum of two appointments, both of which take about six months each.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:01 pm


Okay, I'm making an appointment at the doctor tomorrow.
I feel a little nervous talking about me being transsexual in front of others, but it doesn't help that I'm a naturally shy person anyway.
I don't want them to do anything like weighing me or taking my measurements though, if they do that sort of thing.

What sort of thing do you have to go through when at the gender identity clinic/talking to the psychiatrist?

Unfortunately as I'm living with my mother, she won't allow me to buy any male clothes and she won't let me express myself in that way at home because she's against me being transsexual.
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Wo xiang ni


Nathan Dorian
Captain

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:03 pm


They won't do anything like that, you'll be tested before getting before T, not when seeing your GP to start things off. C:

You may also want to consider requesting counselling (as well as, not instead, make that clear) if you like, to help expressing yourself, gain confidence, talk about your Mum, vent, etc.

Just remember to stand your ground, do not let them talk you into anything that you do not want/did not decide.

It's good that it takes around a year or more usually to get on T via the NHS, because due to the situation with your Mother they may not let you go on T. So it's good to have that time to hopefully sort things out with her.

May I ask how old you are?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:25 pm


Well actually I'm fourteen razz
15 in 4 months.

But um, my mom doesn't like the idea of me being transsexual.
But she doesn't mind me going on testosterone.
She's a bit weird like that, but she also has bipolar... so... yeah.
I am rather ashamed of my age myself.
Everytime I talk to people they think I'm 18 or 20, but I'm not and I feel horrible that older people treat me like a kid once I tell them my age.
/irrelevant rant./

But um, I don't like psychiatrists, but in this case I have no choice so I'll just bite my lip and go through with it. Hopefully things will go smoothly.

Wo xiang ni


Nathan Dorian
Captain

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:31 pm


Well, you may encounter a lot of trouble due to your age, which is to be expected because you're at an age where there is a fair chance that you'll change your view as you get older - on who you are and what you want.

You can pursue the path I've laid out, but may not get anywhere because of your age, I'm not sure. But hey, there's no rush.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:50 pm


I've considered having testosterone injected into me for two years now. I've done alot of thinking, about how I'm going to cope and everything.
And yes, I've decided, I definitely want to pursue this.
I want to start before the age of 16 as I know the effects will be alot quicker/more effective the younger you are.

Wo xiang ni


Nathan Dorian
Captain

PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:00 pm


This is true, but it's better to be safe than sorry, regardless of how sure you are. C:

So, in other words, don't give your hopes up.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:40 pm


Tommy February6 x
This is true, but it's better to be safe than sorry, regardless of how sure you are. C:

So, in other words, don't give your hopes up.

Oh I won't [:

Wo xiang ni


Spatterdash

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:31 pm


Darky's said pretty much everything I was gonna say, and he knows better than me.
But your age really will be a hindrance. The NHS is kinda reluctant about giving treatment to anybody for this kinda thing, since they want to make extra-special-sure so they don't get their arses sued off by people who regret it. I'm sure you're mature enough, and that you know what you're doing, but they don't half fanny around. Charing Cross is good, so I've heard, but other GICs take ******** forever. I'd heard of people at Leeds who've been waiting five years... which is not good considering it's gonna be my local.
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